From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

I'm Bob Ruff.

Thank you. crowdsourced investigation in real time. I'm Bob Roth. So, uh, Justine, how are you?

I'm good. How are you?

I'm really good. I'm excited to talk to you. I just, I got to have one of the perks of being the true crime binge hoses. I get sneak peeks of podcasts.

And I just spent the last hour listening to episode one of your upcoming show, Believe Her, and I'm already hooked.

Great. That's what we want.

That was the idea, right?

I mean, yeah, that's the plan.

This is garbage.

Don't care about the next thing.

Don't want to know any more about it.

That's enough. Really good. And this is,

this is very timely for us when this airs. October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month.

Great timing for the release of your show. And we're at True Crime Binds. We're trying to,

to highlight some domestic violence cases during this month. So the timing is working out perfectly.

But we'll get into the case in a minute.

First, I want to let the audience know a little bit about you.

So I'm speaking with Justin Vanderloon.

And I had to write that in my phonetic spelling.

Justine.

Right.

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