From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time. I'm Bob Roth. Hello everybody and welcome back to truth and justice.

This week I'm joined by two guests who are doing some incredible work and very unique work compared to some of the other stuff that we've covered.

This was a listener recommendation and I spent this week listening to several of their episodes.

I am joined by Ash and Shiashi of the We Are Resilient Podcast. How are you guys doing?

Doing good. We're happy to be here. It's great to meet both of you guys. So you guys are down,

you said you're in the Cherokee Mountains in North Carolina? Yes. How's the weather there?

We're finally getting some sunshine in Michigan for the first time in forever. Well, it kind of varies. I think last week it was cold and it was snowing. And this week, like today, it's a beautiful sunny day that you don't need a jacket. So we're just going day by day. We don't know. Right. That's so it's not all that different from living in the Midwest and the Great Lakes up here, which is.

Yeah. We're just going day by day. We don't know. Right. That's so it's not all that different from living in the Midwest and the Great Lakes up here.

Yeah. It's going to be 50 on Friday. It was like below zero last week. We just get it. We get it all.

We never know how to dress. We're just, we're just here. All right. So to get started, your podcast covers kind of a unique niche. It's something, and it was really

interesting to me when a listener suggested having you guys on, because it's something that

kind of, this really, I feel like came to light when the Gabby Petito case became very, very

popular. There for a lot of people that, especially people that are into crime, you know,

because she went missing in an area where a lot of indigenous people have also gone missing,

lots and lots of them.

And there's never, there had never been any attention put on that.

And then when Gabby Petito goes missing, it's national news all over the place.

And that was kind of for the first time for me, I realized that this was an issue and this is something that was going on,

and it was being ignored. But it's also very, it's difficult to, from someone who, you know, is

outside of the indigenous communities to really be able to tell

these stories. And you guys have kind of filled that, that void and you do it. You've done it over

a, I looked 160 episodes you guys have put out so far, which is both impressive and sad that

...