Hey, everybody, welcome back to the old-fashioned on-purpose podcast.

So I recently posted a note over on my substack, which is jill winger.substack.com, if you want to follow along over there.

But I was talking about embarrassment and how embarrassment

can be the cost of entry towards the things that really light us up the things we're supposed

to do in life um and it resonated with a lot of people i got a lot of comments on it and so i wanted

to flesh it out a little bit more today sometimes Sometimes a podcast is a good way for me to

organize my thoughts, and I find that sometimes my ramblings even are helpful to some of you.

This is a topic I have danced with a lot over the years, because I frequently find myself

in situations where I feel excitement and also an overwhelming sense of dread. And believe it or not,

those two feelings are not mutually exclusive. And they're actually partners with each other when we

are doing things that are out of our comfort zone that we're definitely supposed to do. We're

meant to do. We're called to do, but we're not used to it.

You know, it's not something that feels normal in every day.

And so I think as people, old-fashioned on purpose people or ambitious people or just people in

general, we need to talk about this more because I see so many people start to take steps

towards things that they want to do,

that they've always wanted.

And then they run into that wall of the fear of embarrassment or that dread or that mixture of

butterflies and nausea.

And they stop and they run backwards and they go, oh, it's not meant to be.

As if stepping out of our comfort zone is going to be

comfortable, as if doing this thing we've never done is going to feel like second nature, because it

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