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Midway through our conversation, Alina asks if I would mind turning on my tape recorder.

So, I'm just going to record you on the phone here.

We've been talking about new information I just received about Karima's last days.

I feel self-conscious of it right now.

No, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to, it's all we have to use any of this, it's just,

but I think it's important to just have a record of what you were feeling in this moment.

No, no, I agree. I just couldn't sleep last night. I just laid in bed thinking about her.

I mean, I had a night. Late last night, I flew back home to Nova Scotia.

Anyways, I've just gotten back from Toronto. I haven't been in Toronto to do any

in-person interviews because of COVID, right? Alina? Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to just walk through

what we know, Alina, for people. Yeah. Maybe we'll go back to when I first saw the police report

with Samir, which was yesterday. Yeah, so...

I had gone to Toronto to meet Karima's brother, Samir, for the first time in person.

Over the past year, talking on the phone for hours, we've become close, and it didn't seem right

not to meet face to face when he was entrusting me with perhaps the most crucial documents of

this investigation. And yesterday, I received the Toronto Police report on Karima from Samir,

...