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The Expert Witness from Uncover

Introducing: Kuper Island

The Expert Witness from Uncover

CBC

True Crime

4.510.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

Long after the Kuper Island Residential School was torn down, the survivors are still haunted by what happened there. Investigative reporter Duncan McCue exposes buried police investigations, confronts perpetrators of abuse and witnesses a community trying to rebuild — literally on top of the old school’s ruins and the unmarked graves of Indigenous children.

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0:00.0

My name is Ian Urbina. I've reported on some pretty mind-blowing stories, but nothing like what happens at sea.

0:08.5

If they got within 800 meters, that is when we would fire warning shots.

0:12.3

Murder, slavery, human trafficking, and staggering environmental crimes.

0:17.1

Men have told me that they've been beaten with stingray tails, which means...

0:20.8

If you really want to understand crime, start with a law of the land ends. The Outlaw Ocean.

0:26.3

Available now on CBC Listen and everywhere you get your podcasts.

0:30.5

This is a CBC podcast.

0:36.3

They called it a school, but what kind of school has a graveyard?

0:40.7

I'll tell you.

0:44.1

The Penelacat Tribes, as it has found, more than 160 unmarked graves in an area near the former Cooper Island residential school.

0:53.1

This podcast is about that kind of school.

0:57.0

The kind of school that was meant to kill the Indian in the child.

1:03.1

But more than anything, it's about children who went there, three who survived, and one who didn't.

1:09.7

We're just talking, and then suddenly he says, you know what? I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

1:15.0

When I get out of here, I'm going to tell everything. And that was the last time we heard from him.

1:19.8

And it's about a community that's haunted by its legacy.

1:23.8

The spirit of the children were afraid. They were being disturbed, and so they were reaching out.

1:31.3

Children torn from their families, their language, and their culture.

1:35.9

And that has everything to do with why children are missing and murdered.

1:40.2

Why children didn't go home? Because they were raised by psychopaths.

1:45.5

And sent to live in a place so terrible, it came to be known as Canada's Alcatraz.

1:50.6

I have never seen such abject fear as what I saw in that child.

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