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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S17 Ep5: Follow-Up S17: E5

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.67.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the autopsy of Sheila Bartee and Elizabeth Daily Ayers and answer listener questions.

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0:00.0

From NBII Studios, this is Truth and Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time. I'm Bob Roth.

0:57.8

Ahoy, friends. Thank you for tuning in the Truth and Justice. You are listening to the Friday follow up for season 17, episode five. This week, Bob broke down the autopsies of Sheila and Liz from the Ballfield double homicide. This episode has raised a lot of questions, and we are going to get into all of your listener questions. Today'm joined by Bob and Janet but before we get into all that do we have any housekeeping oh yeah just one thing I wanted to throw out to everybody I've only had a chance to

1:02.1

listen to the first episode but the BBC actually has put together a podcast on Sandy Melgar's

1:09.5

case and Jim and Sandy's daughter Liz who you guys all know from being on our show

1:14.5

all throughout season six, is a big part of it.

1:17.7

And she's participated in it.

1:20.1

And The Innocence Project of Texas is all on board with everything that they're doing

1:24.5

and putting together.

1:25.2

I believe the first two episodes are out as of now. Yeah, I listened to both of them, yeah. You've listened to both already. For when I heard in the first episode, it sounds really good, like they're doing a really good in-depth analysis of it. I know that Mike and Allison from IPTX were super excited for it to come out. They've been posting about it. Liz's been posting about it.

2:02.6

So just for more information and another kind of perspective on the Melgar case, go check out. It's called Hands Tide. I don't think I said the title of it, right? No, you didn't. Yeah, hands tied. Yep. It's called Hands Tied. It's by the BBC. So check that out and give that, give that a listen. Other than that, there's no,

2:05.4

well, there's a little bit more housekeeping, but I think we had questions about the stuff that we need to talk about. Yeah, Jenna had just wanted to check in on any updates for West Memphis

2:10.8

3 to start. Yeah. So when we're recording this, it's, it's Wednesday night. At this point, it has been eight business days

2:19.8

since the hearing. So I know we had said that it was, that the evidence was supposed to be

2:24.5

packaged and ready to be shipped out within 10 days. That was 10 business days. So the day you're

2:30.2

hearing this on Friday, the 15th, that will be the deadline that was set by the judge

2:36.3

for everything to be shipped out. So as of right now, I haven't heard anything. And I'm kind of

2:41.6

operating under no news as good news. Things are probably moving forward. Because if something had

2:46.6

come up that was a problem, I would have I would have heard about it immediately. And I have not heard

2:51.4

anything that anything's going wrong. So as far as I know, everything's still on track to get shipped

2:56.7

out by the time you're hearing this episode, because I believe that that would be the 10 business

3:01.8

day mark. Okay, great. And then Jenna had also asked if there were any updates on the series that Edates did that, you know, had started airing, but we weren't sure about Ed's episode. I don't even want to call it by its name because I don't want anyone to watch it. But I, it's terrible. I watched it. Ed had reached out and it just, Ed did not watch it. Ed had reached out and, hey, the, the episode is airing. He was upset about it. And then, you know, he was just saying like the way people at work are kind of looking at him. Like he just, he's just really uneasy about the whole thing. So I bit the bullet and watched it. And it is disgusting. And and it is it is worse than I could have possibly

3:45.5

imagined I don't know what's happening from here but something is going to happen uh I know

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