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Old Fashioned On Purpose

S17: E10: Freshly Milled Flour: Myths vs. Facts

Old Fashioned On Purpose

Jill Winger

Education, Farm, Gardening, Leisure, Farming, Chickens, Hobbies, How To, Homestead, Home & Garden, Canning, Cows, Homesteading, Cooking

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I welcome back Mike Vaona, the engineer-turned-baker behind Rosehill Sourdough, to chat about his recent deep dive into fresh-milled flours. We cover a range of topics, from tweaking hydration levels and the surprising effects of oxidation to the differences between ancient, heritage, and modern wheats. Mike also shares his thoughts on nutrient loss over time, his favorite gluten-free flour, and best practices for baking with fresh-milled flour. This is one deep dive yo...

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0:00.0

Okay, friends, we are talking about a topic that we actually have talked about before here on the show.

0:14.0

And I have personally done a lot of experimenting and reading and research on it.

0:18.4

But even so, I'm still very intrigued by this topic and very

0:22.3

curious about it because, although I've had success around it, there's still a lot of unknowns

0:27.3

for me and there's still a lot of questions I have and things I'm trying to figure out. And the topic

0:32.2

is fresh, milled flour. It could be tricky. And I think one of the biggest surprises that people have when they start making their own bread is they assume, you know, they get some success with all-purpose flour, maybe all-purpose sourdough. And they're like, cool, I'm going to go even further back to the basics and get a grain mill and grind it myself. It's obviously going to be easier. It's obviously going to be better.

0:54.8

And that's not always the case.

0:56.2

Sometimes there's some really big surprises and it actually can be quite the shock.

1:00.3

I remember the first few times I tried that for my family.

1:03.4

My husband was like, what is this?

1:05.2

And it was not edible.

1:06.9

It was brick like.

1:07.7

It was dry.

1:08.3

It would choke you on the way down.

1:09.3

It just wasn't great.

1:10.1

So it's a

1:11.0

rude awakening. And there are some things you need to know about fresh-mealed flour. So back in

1:15.9

season 15, episode seven, I had the pleasure of having Mike Viona on the podcast. He is the founder

1:22.1

of Rose Hill Sourdough. You've likely seen his products taking the internet by storm. He has the coolest silicone bread mats.

1:29.4

He has these amazing, I'm trying to remember that the material, but it's like a press.

1:34.1

Woodpull.

1:34.8

Wood pulp, wood pulp.

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