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Before we start, this is a podcast about Canada's Indian residential schools and it

contains descriptions of sexual violence, suicide and abuse. If you need support,

you can find information about where to turn for help at cbc.ca slash keeper

trial.

When James Charlie was a young man, he didn't tell anyone about the abuse he'd

suffered at residential school. He had two ways of numbing his deep pain, boozing and fighting.

That was my way of coping with all the hurt to the anger I had in me. I was from being

a man, not being a man, not being a father, not being a husband, not being a brother.

Those were my crutch, eh? Now it's getting to have more malo James. It's a nice place

to be. I saw a lot of my temper. My tunnest in the sharpest used to be, but it's still sharp.

What I went to, the hardest part to make was my um,

healing journey, the harm I afflicted on my wife, the harm I afflicted on my boys, the

harm I afflicted on my grandchildren.

There was two sides to my dad. There was an angry side and a happy side.

And my brother's an eye. And my mom, we were all walkin' and eggshells because we never

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