S15 Ep15: The Lead Detective

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Bob breaks down Lead Detective, Dan McGinnis' trial testimony. We learn some new details about the crime scene, and discover a few discrepancies from the original police reports. We also hear how McGinnis' testimony boxed Jodi into a corner, leaving them with no other choice but to take the stand in their own defense.

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0:00.0	I have no secrets to have any
0:05.0	anything to lose. I have no secrets to how I could just be
0:11.6	one and people could judge it.
0:14.0	However they judge.
0:17.0	From NBI Studios, this is Truth in Justice,
0:22.0	a crowd-sourced investigation in real time.
0:24.0	I'm Bob Ruff. Oh, Jody Hill's conviction, whether you agree with it or not was primarily the result of one man's determination.
0:56.2	The lead investigator on the case and now Director of Public Safety, Dan McGinnis.
1:02.2	From beginning to end, from his initial arrival on the scene to interviews with
1:06.1	jailhouse snitches to sound simulation drive test mail-order GSR kits all the way down to his trial testimony.
1:15.0	Dan McGinnis worked hard to build a case against Jody and send them to prison for the rest
1:19.6	of their life.
1:21.8	Today's episode is not about feelings, it's not about whether we think McGinnis did a good job or a bad job.
1:28.0	The intention here is just to be informative.
1:31.0	We've already heard the other sides of most of these stories.
1:35.2	We've already analyzed the drive test simulation and compared it to Victoria Miles
1:39.5	statements. We picked apart the gunshot residue testing and we've heard what Sonia Lucas has to say about
1:44.8	McGinnis introducing the dying declaration story to her and pressuring her into claiming it as
1:49.4	her own.
1:51.4	Today we're just going to hear how McGinnis described his investigation on the stand at trial,
1:57.0	so you can understand what the jury heard.
2:00.0	I'll be breaking down some important elements of his testimony along the way, in particular the parts where I see conflicts.
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