S14 Ep43: The Dukes of Hazard
The Cycling Podcast
The Cycling Podcast
4.7 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Long-time regulars on The Cycling Podcast’s Giro d’Italia coverage, in this year’s edition Matt White and Max Sciandri are directing operations, together, from the front seat of the Movistar team car.
Australia and Italy, fire and ice, they make an intriguing duo, but can it be a successful one at this year’s Giro? We went behind the scenes on the day of their boldest tactical plan yet, on stage 4 of the Giro to Cosenza, to get a sense of how their partnership is galvanising the Spanish team at this year’s Giro. Daniel Friebe then summoned Matt and Max the following morning for a debrief and typically mirthful discussion of what they each bring to their roles.
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Stage 14: Les Crêtes Mon Blanc, Valle D’Aosta (white)
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a Girovagando Kilometer Zero by the cycling podcast. |
| 0:17.1 | Many things have changed over our decade of covering the Giro d'Italia on the ground, |
| 0:21.6 | but certain voices hopefully also add a comforting familiarity to the thrill of the vicarious ride around Italy. |
| 0:27.6 | But my hometown is Tore del Greco, exactly halfway between Naples and Pompeii. |
| 0:36.6 | This is the tapas. |
| 0:37.7 | A modest mission has been and remains to not only chronicle race events, |
| 0:41.2 | but to convey some of the texture of the Gero. |
| 0:43.9 | For that, we need voices from the Inner Sanctum, |
| 0:46.6 | in the Peloton, team cars and hotels. |
| 0:49.3 | Rich voices, entertaining voices, belonging to those who like us, |
| 0:52.9 | recognize that the grand tours are above all epic |
| 0:55.1 | sagas, exercises in storytelling. |
| 0:58.4 | Yeah, it is what it is. |
| 0:59.6 | Yeah, he came at one stage and the climb came very close. |
| 1:02.1 | Matt White was for years the head director, Sportive, at Green Edge. |
| 1:05.1 | In that first gyro we covered end to end, his was the voice of reason and perspective |
| 1:09.9 | after his rider Estevan Chavez |
| 1:11.9 | lost the Malia Rosa on the penultimate day to champion elect Vincenzoni-Ibali. |
| 1:16.6 | None at all. |
| 1:16.9 | None at all. |
| 1:17.9 | Yeah, and I agree, it was disappointing. |
| 1:19.8 | You know, it was so close to winning a grand tour. |
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