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to catch up on the latest episodes without the ads. The Oh, Hello everybody and welcome back to Truth in Justice. I have two very special guests

with us today, kind of a blast from the past and some up-and-coming exciting stuff for the

future. I'm joined today by Colin Miller and

Robbiea Shoudry. How are you guys doing? Great, hi Bob.

Yeah, doing well. Good to see you. Yeah, Colin, we were just talking before we

started the show is getting ready to great exams for the college of certainly an exciting time of year for you.

Yeah, I have a bunch of evidence exams to go through which we're seeing kind of play out in real time in New York

with the trial all the evidence issues that are coming up which is interesting.

So are you now before prior like back when undisclosed first started you weren't working in the

innocence clinic then right you were you were teaching other law classes or were you

working as part of an innocence clinic at that point?

Same as now. I teach evidence, criminal law, criminal adjudication. We're just starting this wrongful convictions club here at South Carolina where we're going to have students

working on wrongful conviction cases cases which can be great.

Oh that's exciting.

You should invite Adnan to come down and speak to the class whenever it's up and coming, up

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