Hello and welcome back to Drilled. I'm Amy Westervelt.

Today we're bringing you the last episode in our season 14 obstruction.

We were looking at this book from the Climate Social Science Network that's pulled together all of the peer-reviewed research on climate

obstruction globally. That book is called Climate Obstruction, a Global Assessment. There's a link

in the show notes to download a free copy of it if you'd like it for a reference. I highly

recommend you download it and read it and keep all the footnotes, links to all the different studies.

It's a super, super handy reference. Today, the final episode maps to the final chapter in that

book, which is looking at one of the tactics that works to combat obstruction.

Last week, we talked about litigation, and this week we are talking about

activism of various kinds. To do that, I'm joined by Jenny Stevens at National

University of Ireland, Manuth, and Sharon Yadin from the University of Haifa. Each of them

walked me through a different type of effective activism against obstruction. And I found

both of those conversations super, super interesting. I hope you do too. They're coming up after this

quick break.

I'm Jenny Stevens. I'm Professor of Climate Justice at the National University of Ireland in Manut.

I actually wanted to ask you, before we get into some of the more detailed questions, just about this chapter in general, because it's one of the two chapters in this book that actually look at some of the pushback to obstruction. And I guess

I just want to ask you sort of broadly the role that activism plays in that pushback and why

it's effective. Yes, I think one of the things that we did in this chapter is really try to focus on how important

the resistance to climate obstructionism is.

And the kind of revealing and expanding awareness, kind of the social exposure piece, is a big part of it,

but also that there's a lot of policy advocacy that's going on.

That's also really important.

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