S13 Ep150: All White Now
The Cycling Podcast
The Cycling Podcast
4.7 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 November 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
White’s departure from the Australian trade team he had shaped for years was almost as much of a surprise as his professional ‘emigration’ to Spain, although he has lived close to Valencia for many years. In this episode, he explains the specific challenges facing Movistar to Daniel Friebe, while also meditating more broadly on the challenge for ‘mid-table’ teams of staying relevant in the Pogačar era.
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| 0:00.0 | You are listening to the cycling calendar, the birth date of Leublerot, the Badger Bernanou, and Los Los Squalo, the shark, Vincenzo Nibaly. |
| 0:39.6 | My name is Daniel Freiber, and today I am the zookeeper of this episode of the |
| 0:43.3 | cycling podcast in which we will encage another big beast in the world of |
| 0:47.5 | professional cycling, or at least be graced with their company for the next 45 minutes or so. |
| 0:54.2 | Matt White is a familiar name for listeners of the cycling podcast, particularly those of you who |
| 0:58.8 | have tuned into our daily coverage of the Grand Tours over the last decade. |
| 1:03.5 | 2025 season indeed felt and probably sounded a little different precisely because Whitey |
| 1:08.5 | wasn't around, having been dismissed from his management role |
| 1:11.3 | at Jaco Alula on the eve of the Giro d'Italia. The reason purportedly, the team's lack of results, |
| 1:18.4 | although 25 victories in 2024, including three Grand Tour stages, hardly represented a dismal |
| 1:25.8 | return. Happily for him, another World Tour team was quick to |
| 1:28.9 | recognise his potential value. If Jaco Alula was home in a sporting sense for over a decade, |
| 1:34.6 | Spain was where Matt had lived throughout that period, specifically close to Valencia. Signing for Movisstar, |
| 1:40.0 | as their head of sports was therefore its own kind of return to base. Not that he is under any illusion about how different this new environment could be, |
| 1:49.1 | with its proudly and until fairly recently nigh on monolingual culture. |
| 1:53.6 | His arrival is the latest nod to a process of internationalisation and anglicisation |
| 1:59.2 | that the grand old man of Spanish teams embarked upon a few seasons ago. |
| 2:04.4 | In the conversation you're about to hear, we talk about that, but also more general matters like the sports direction of travel. |
| 2:11.3 | Matt was, as always, engaging and insightful company, so I do hope that you enjoy. |
| 2:22.0 | Shoot, shoot at the rear of the blois, cycling podcast, team car at the back of the pack, please. |
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