A friend, welcome back to the Old Fashioned On Purpose Podcast. So I have a repeat guest today. He was so good the first time. I had to have him back. We're talking about a slightly different topic. Last time he was here we talked about

pastured pork you probably know who I'm talking about the one and only Charles Mayfield and

I got so much positive feedback and he's so easy to talk to honestly that I wanted to have him back to take a slightly different angle.

Today we're going to still be talking about pigs, but we're going to talk about next steps.

Last time we talked about how to raise the pork sustainably and if you haven't heard that

episode go ahead and listen to that one we'll drop the number in all the info in the

show notes and then today we're talking about okay you've raised the pigs what do you

do next do you butcher at home how to find a good

butcher and then we're going to dive into potentially my favorite part of these topics and

that is lard rendering lard differences in lard lard lard lard bards of pigs all the lard, rendering lard, differences in lard, lard,

lard breeds of pigs, all the lard.

So Charles, welcome back.

I'm so excited for this conversation.

Fantastic to be back with you, Jill.

This is a lot of fun. I enjoyed our last conversation looking to take it to the next level.

Yes, so I think most people have heard that previous episode they know you're a regenerative farming evangelist I love that title by the way

you're the founder of Pharaoh's skin care you're a farmer but in case they

haven't listened to that one can you just give us a quick intro of kind of your

background and why you're so passionate about this

topic. Sure so yes I was I was first introduced to regenerative farming in

2012 took a pilgrimage to Polyface Farms in Virginia. This was sort of through the

paleo community. My ex-wife and I had just published our first cookbook.

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