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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S12 Ep42: The Fire: A Closer Look

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.57.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2023

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Using Bob's sleuthing skills and his background in firefighting, today we take a very detailed look into the Pinyon Pines fire.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

From NBI Studio, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

0:15.9

I'm Bob Brum.

0:30.0

Hello everybody and welcome back to Truth Injustice.

0:36.2

This week's episode, we're kind of taking a step back.

0:38.8

I know we've been working on the case against Robert and Christian, but in the process of

0:45.4

breaking down a lot of the elements of the crime scene, I noticed some things about

0:50.1

the fire that didn't seem consistent at all with our perspective on what we think happened

0:58.1

at the Freedleys House on September 17th, 2006, based on what we heard in Charlie

1:03.3

to Hearts testimony several months ago when we covered that Charlie to Heart was the

1:07.2

arson investigator.

1:08.9

So just for this week, I'm hitting pause on looking into the case against Robert and

1:13.1

Christian and taking a step back to make sure we have a clear understanding of the actual

1:17.7

crime scene and what happened on that night.

1:21.8

And I'm doing that because as most of you know, my background is in arson investigation.

1:26.0

This is what I used to do for a living.

1:28.4

And in this case, I kind of just took the arson investigators word and presented it to

1:32.6

you without doing my own arson investigation.

1:35.5

And so that's what I'm going to be doing this week.

1:38.1

I'm going to be breaking down the actual arson investigation report written by DeHeart.

1:43.0

And then I'm going to give you some of my key takeaways, things that are actually pretty

1:47.8

different from the perspective that we had in the hypothesis that we've been working

1:52.6

with since way back at the beginning of this case.

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