You're listening to the cycling podcast at the 2024 Buelta-SPANya from Lishboa to Madrid. G Goodness Fran cartel Reyes in your home region and the Lufti are not really in that your home region of your home region is it?

It's a I mean seville yeah especially when I was a child I received it as a very distant capital for which the E-Bol came

but now I'm getting more dear to it thanks to music.

Oh really?

Yeah, because there is amazing music here in Seville.

It's the hotbed of Lamento.

Yeah, I was going to say, it's the city of Carmen, the opera, the barber of Seville, other

opera, Rothcini opera,

uh, city of Flamenco, city of El Grand Derby, I think, that the football derby between Betis and Seville about which there are fascinating stories I was reading up about that today Fran and quite unlike a lot of other big football rivalries in other cities.

There's this great history of each team sending each other into the second division in Spain

and well we won't go into that in too much depth today but yeah a

very alluring city and also one thing that I like a lot about the

Betty Seville rivalry is that especially in the recent years has not been that violent

you know because yeah usually yeah I mean they just like each other. And after all, it's the same city.

They usually are workmates and such.

So those violent spots back in the day

when the presence of each club were opposite to each other and they were insulting each other

on TV and on dinners.

It was a bit more heated, but right now it's respectful and you can say that it's really a party the Derby and not a tense sports match that can get hourly.

Do you have sympathies with Seville or Betis?

Betis, Betsis rather than Seville?

They have wonderful, wonderful colours of course,

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