S12 E20: Ofir Stein, Apono
Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
Noah Labhart - Startup Founder & CTO
5.0 • 217 Ratings
🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This episode is brought to you by The Built. A new podcast from the guys behind Cincera, |
| 0:04.7 | Michael Sullivan and Ian Myers. They built their company by figuring out clever solutions to a few |
| 0:09.8 | important ad tech problems in their industry. And that's exactly what this show is about. |
| 0:15.2 | Mike and Ian interview some of the smartest tech minds in the biz to hear about how they |
| 0:19.8 | identified opportunities, solve their hardest challenges, and grew their businesses in the biz to hear about how they identified opportunities, solve |
| 0:21.6 | their hardest challenges, and grew their businesses in the process. Listen to The Build with |
| 0:27.1 | Michael Sullivan, wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:34.0 | What I believe in is that there is a trade-off that we all know between putting a band-aid on a solution, right, if I want to solve something, right? |
| 0:43.9 | I can put a band-aid, do something very fast, band-aid. |
| 0:47.2 | It's like the bad way to describe it, but there is like a key approach, right? |
| 0:51.4 | Keep it simple, stupid. |
| 0:53.0 | But you can also do it scalable and a good |
| 0:55.9 | solution that a lot of the time this is a good way to say that overengineering is the second |
| 1:01.7 | piece, like if you do that. So you always move between do I do it in scalable and good |
| 1:07.2 | architectal way or I'm doing that kind of over-engineering, or I need to look |
| 1:12.3 | on the kind of kiss approach. |
| 1:14.6 | My name is Afir-Stain. |
| 1:16.0 | I'm the CTO and co-founder at the Pono. |
| 1:20.9 | This is Code Story. |
| 1:23.6 | A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. |
| 1:26.6 | Six months moonlighting. There's nothing on the backhand. Who share what it takes to change in industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. She took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve more. Most proud of our team. Keeping scalability top of mind. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my view. Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. |
| 2:01.9 | It's not just about technology. |
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