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S12 Bonus: Aron D’Souza, Objection AI

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders

Noah Labhart - Startup Founder & CTO

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5.0217 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Aron D'Souza is originally from Australia, the son of a Chinese mother and an Indian-Portuguese father. He is a graduate of Oxford, and got his PhD from the University of Melbourne. A lawyer by training, he has built 12 companies and has had 5 exits - working with folks like Peter Thiel, the New York Stock Exchange and the Enhanced Games. In general, he's a problem solver, and turns all of his fun into work. Aron made the stark realization that we are a divided society, and do not have a trusted, unbiased media source. He attempted to build a rudimentary version of a solution for a tribunal of truth 20 years ago, but the tech wasn't ready for it. That is, until the most recent advances in AI. This is the creation story of Objection AI. Our Sponsors: * Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/mt82fpxl #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. * Check out Plaud AI and use my code CODESTORY for a great deal: https://plaud.ai Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by The Built. A new podcast from the guys behind Cincera,

0:04.7

Michael Sullivan and Ian Myers. They built their company by figuring out clever solutions to a few

0:09.8

important ad tech problems in their industry. And that's exactly what this show is about.

0:15.2

Mike and Ian interview some of the smartest tech minds in the biz to hear about how they

0:19.8

identified opportunities, solve their hardest challenges, and grew their businesses in the biz to hear about how they identified opportunities, solve

0:21.6

their hardest challenges, and grew their businesses in the process. Listen to the build with

0:27.1

Michael Sullivan, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:33.9

So actually, objection has been a 20-year project.

0:38.3

Long before I met Peter Thiel and the Gawker litigation, I actually had this idea.

0:42.3

I tried to program it myself in like raw HTML, like in an IDE.

0:48.3

And that was like probably 2004.

0:52.3

The technology just wasn't there. Then when I won the Galker lawsuit,

0:57.2

and I realized that courts are so broken and that a simple debate can take 20 years and tens of

1:07.3

millions of dollars to resolve, I tried to build it in 2016. And again, the technology

1:12.8

wasn't there. I'm Aaron D'Souza. I'm the founder and CEO of Objection AI.

1:20.8

This is Code Story. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries.

1:26.6

Six months moonlighting. There's nothing on the backhand. Who share what it takes to change in industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. She took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve more. Most proud of our team. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was up pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my view. Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it.

2:01.8

It's not just about technology.

2:03.3

All this and more on Code Story.

2:06.8

I'm your host, Noah Labhart, and today how Aaron DeSuzza is building the AI Tribunal

2:12.9

of Truth, so you can dispute statements made by the media.

2:21.3

Today's episode is brought to you by dot tech domains, and this one hits close to home.

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