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S1108: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 8 (finale)

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

On September 12, 2022, Frank Abagnale was honored with a Heroes in Ethics award at Xavier University. An ethics award for a conman! Unlike the general public, who were spellbound by the myth surrounding Abagnale's life, Xavier University knew precisely who they were honoring that night. They can't claim ignorance because I wrote the University and told them they had the wrong guy. Frank Abagnale doesn't deserve an ethics award. He lied about his entire life story. Was Malala busy that week? She deserves an ethics award. But despite knowing the truth, Xavier University went along with their little ethics ceremony anyway. Xavier University's mission is built on moral and ethical responsibility- that's what it says on its website. And out of all the people in the world making a difference, they chose to honor a guy who ripped off his girlfriend and is accused of feeling up college girls pretending to be a doctor-slash pilot recruiter. But, seriously, did they even read this guy's Wikipedia page? Picture a room full of business students, professors, lawyers, accountants, and even current members of the FBI eagerly awaiting Frank Abagnale's Heroes in Ethics acceptance speech. Little does Frank Abagnale know that Jim Grinstead, host of the Scams and Cons podcast, was in the audience. Jim planned to confront Frank Abagnale during the Q&A portion of the ceremony. Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more. Support PRETEND on Patreon Listen to ad-free episodes and bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's time to explore. This is your opportunity to discover what's out there for you and

0:11.1

realise what you were made to do. It's time to achieve, learn more, realise your potential

0:16.8

and become who you were made to be. It's time to create, make new friendships, discover

0:22.4

new passions and become the best version of you. It's time to discover Oxford Brooks University.

0:30.1

Join us on an open date. Visit Oxford Brooks.ac.uk to find out more.

0:43.7

I'm sure many of you have watched the hit Netflix documentary The Tinder Swendler.

0:49.6

$20,000, 30,000, 140,000 dollars is life dependent on me. That's Swendler's Tell Me.

0:59.8

The man I love was never real. The Tinder Swendler is about a con man named Simon Levive. Levive

1:06.7

financially destroyed women using the popular dating app by making his dates believe that he was

1:12.5

actually a diamond tycoon. He's a pretty slimy guy. Been one day, I don't know where,

1:19.0

I get this message in my inbox. It's a video from Simon Levive, the Tinder Swendler himself.

1:30.4

I want to congratulate you of catching the real Frank Abignail from Catch Me If You Can.

1:36.3

Some of the data would be funny to ask Levive his thoughts on turning the Tinder Swendler

1:40.3

into a hip-hop way play similar to the Catch Me If You Can musical.

1:44.9

You know, the third turn in the Tinder Swendler into a musical world is going to be amazing,

1:50.1

my friend. Amazing? That's crazy if you ask me, but hey, let's give it a shot.

2:00.1

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. If you're feeling nauseous by all of this, it's because it's

2:11.1

disgusting. I would never go see a Broadway musical based on this guy's life,

2:15.4

or watch JJ Abrams direct Tinder Swendler the movie, and you wouldn't either,

2:20.5

because we all know that there are women still out there paying the debt this guy left behind.

2:25.3

No one should ever turn the Tinder Swendler into a musical, it's ridiculous.

2:30.9

So then why on Earth would Hollywood and Broadway feel the need to romanticize Frank Abignail's

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