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S1107: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 7

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

What if I told you that Frank Abagnale wasn't the only con artist in his family? His older brother used multiple aliases, faked his career as a therapist, and was even accused of kidnapping a 7-year-old girl. This episode reveals the dark and puzzling secrets of Frank Abagnale's family history. Correction: In the episode, I mention that Susan was married to Roy Abagnale from 1970 to 1978 - but it was actually 1978 to 1992. __________ Bonus episodes Sleepover with Leo: https://www.patreon.com/posts/sleepover-with-71435815?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator Pernilla busted the Tinder Swindler. Hear her thoughts on Frank Abagnale https://www.patreon.com/posts/pernilla-busted-72501591?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator __________ Have you followed PRETEND on TikTok and Instagram? Help me start a trending sound. Use this sound of Frank Abagnale denying writing his book, movie, and Broadway play: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145467873979338030?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1 Here are some examples: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145483295080385835?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1 https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145536351801462062?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1 https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145816794819841326?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:36.6

When I was sixteen years old, like all children, I needed my mother and my father. I want

0:43.5

you to understand one thing. All children need their mother and their father. There are

0:51.0

no exceptions. All children need their mother and their father.

0:58.1

This is Frank Abigail's attempt to justify his criminal past. It's the same story that

1:02.7

captured Steven Spielberg's heart. In the film, Abigail's parents are forced to move

1:07.8

out of their large family home and into a small New York City apartment. Why? Because

1:13.4

this Frank senior, the dad, had tax trouble with the IRS.

1:20.4

This was the beginning of the end for the Abigail family. Later, Frank Jr. learns that his

1:25.8

mother, Paulette, was having an affair with her father's friend. Poor sixteen-year-old

1:31.2

Frank didn't know what to do, so he ran away from home. His plan was to make as much

1:37.4

money as possible so that one day he could reunite his family.

1:44.2

Of course, that's just the Hollywood version of the story. I'll let Frank Jr. explain

1:50.2

what really happened. One day, a complete stranger a judge told me of the two people I loved

1:55.8

most in the world I had to choose one of them over the other. He gave me seconds to answer

2:01.4

them. Instead, I've turned and ran. I have no regrets. I would do it again tomorrow.

2:09.1

In real life, Frank Jr. says that he ran out of the courtroom and into the streets of

2:13.0

New York City. And unlike the movie, he claims he never saw his father again and would

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