I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder

and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties

Hi everyone welcome back to the blood ties podcast I'm Molly Wonsall and I'm here with my father

Jeffrey Wansall. Hello everyone. Welcome back. Thank you for listening. It's very nice to have

Molly back, done a few without her. It's quite nice. It's quite nice to do it without me. No,

it's quite nice to have a companion. Molly's been helping me get my Advent calendar out.

Very important.

I bought myself a really expensive Advent calendar.

Gosh, good to do.

It's a beauty advent calendar, so every day you get a different beauty product.

Oh, well.

But it's one of those ones where they're like, oh, spend 200 pounds, but you get like a thousand, 1,500 pounds worth of product or something. Cricy. I realize this makes me sound like a total div during a cost of living crisis, but that's my gift to myself. Well, I think that's very nice. I haven't given myself a gift yet. I don't think people know that I'm obsessed with beauty because we don't talk about it that much on this podcast. No. I am obsessed with skincare. Yes. Molly has a particular interest in skincare. However, that being said, what have you done this week? Have you done lots of exciting things? I know that mum's this week. Oh yes, you've been away in Oxfordshire.

Yeah.

Yeah, oh, that's nice.

I've been either recording or sort of hiding.

Recovering.

Recovering.

I fell down some steps stupidly, entirely by accident, while pretty sober.

So it was a bit of a shock, really.

I feel like maybe you were lucky that you didn't know it was coming

because if your body's more loose,

then it's when you tense up that you tend to break bones and stuff.

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