S11 E25: Chris Wallis, Intruder

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Noah Labhart - Startup Founder & CTO

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4.6 • 216 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Chris Wallis lives in London, and grew up on a farm in the UK. He was the kid running around the countryside climbing trees - until his parents bought a computer when he was 15. Past that point, he didn't leave the house much, learning to code and digging into ethical hacking. Outside of tech, he is into tennis, swimming, alpine skiing and surfing. He finds himself in phases with these sports, and rotates them often.

In the past, Chris was an ethical hacker, and spent a long time busting into big name systems. Eventually, he moved into one of those companies - and he realized that the tooling out there to discover attack surface weaknesses were lagging. He decided to build a platform that got the job done.

This is the creation story of Intruder.

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1:01.0	You heard me talk about C-M-A and the Product Roadmap Radar.
1:04.0	I just caught up with Matt, who's the founder there, and he gave me the latest on what they are building.
1:09.0	And my mind is blown. The team at SEMA are taking
1:13.1	things to the next level. Built around the core of the product roadmap radar, i.e. code
1:18.1	and Jira analysis, they are building agent orchestration across the product lifecycle.
1:23.5	Picture this. You hook up this system same as before, i.e. integrate your repository and your
1:28.3	backlog, Jira today. From that point, CMA's agent analyzes the code base and makes suggestions
1:33.7	as to what needs to be done next and what could improve, optimize the product. Then, if those tasks are
1:40.2	routine, the agent assigns the task to a coding agent, think something like Devin, to
1:45.4	complete the minutia while assigning the human-in-the-loop tasks to engineers themselves.
1:51.0	What you end up with is engineers focusing on building core competency features while AI handles
1:56.4	all the rest. If you're not salivating right now, I don't think you fully understand what this
2:00.8	means. But here's what I would suggest. right now, I don't think you fully understand what this means.
2:01.7	But here's what I would suggest. Right now, their product is in a closed beta, and SEMA is looking
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