S11 E1 | "What Does It Mean To Be Spiritually Healthy?" With Dr. Joel Muddamalle
Therapy and Theology
Proverbs 31 Ministries
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
If you’ve ever been tempted to confuse spiritual health with spiritual perfection, this conversation is for you.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- The markers of a spiritually healthy Christian and the daily habits they consistently pursue.
- The overlooked patterns that may be threatening your spiritual health and relationship with God.
- How to escape shame, guilt, and isolation and return to the Lord — who has never left your side.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Listen to this review we recently just received from a listener named Nikki. She writes, |
| 0:06.6 | I discovered the Therapy and Theology podcast during a frantic Google search in the midnight |
| 0:11.5 | hours. I was searching for answers to the questions that kept my aching heart awake. I felt |
| 0:16.9 | terrified and abandoned, but not by God. This podcast was my lifeline when I thought I was going to drown. |
| 0:23.5 | You see, it's generous people, just like you, that help reach women like Nikki with the truth of God's word when they need it the most. |
| 0:30.8 | If you'd like to give a gift today so therapy and theology can reach even more women in their desperate moments, go to proverbs 31.org backslash give now. |
| 0:42.7 | Welcome to today's episode of therapy and theology, where we help you work through what you walk through. |
| 0:48.9 | I'm your host, Shay Hill, and I'm so glad that you're tuning in today. |
| 0:52.6 | This season is called Health Check, |
| 0:54.7 | where each week we're going to tackle one specific area in our life |
| 0:58.0 | and learn how to be the healthiest, most whole version of ourselves. |
| 1:02.2 | We'll cover spiritual, mental, emotional, and relational health over the next four weeks. |
| 1:08.2 | And in today's episode, I sit down with Dr. Joel Mutamali, and we talk |
| 1:12.2 | all things spiritual health, and I cannot wait for you to hear it. As you listen to this season on |
| 1:17.8 | Health Check, it's really for adults, but one of the biggest concerns I hear from youth pastors, |
| 1:23.5 | teachers, and especially parents, is this. How do I really help the young people in my life who are |
| 1:29.7 | struggling emotionally and mentally? If that's you, you are not alone. That's why I want to tell you |
| 1:36.0 | about the Youth Mental Health Coach program from the American Association of Christian Counselors |
| 1:41.2 | and Light University. It's a biblically based, clinically excellent training that equips you with practical, |
| 1:47.8 | real-world tools to support youth and their families. |
| 1:51.0 | You'll learn how to recognize 15 of the most common mental health challenges that young people |
| 1:56.4 | are facing today, including anxiety, depression, digital addiction, and emotional regulation. |
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