It was October 1979. Roy Norris had a secret, five of them actually, and he couldn't

stop talking. By the time Halloween came and went, Norris had already told his friend,

Jimmy Dalton, things that no person should ever have to hear. He described the screaming, the mountains, the van, the tools.

He described what they'd done to five teenage girls between June and October of that year,

girls whose names were Cindy, Andrea, Jackie, Leah, and Shirley. Dalton didn't believe him. He thought it was talk, prison bravado.

The kind of dark fantasy men like Norris used to puff themselves up to seem dangerous, to seem

powerful. He thought it was just talk. And then Shirley Ledford's body turned up on a front lawn in Sunland,

and Jimmy Dalton picked up the phone.

I think everyone has a bit of a fascination with the dark side.

I myself always love the dark side as well.

I think it's something that everyone secretly longs, horrid wants.

I just picture those girls and how lonely were when they died.

I'm sorry.

The dark side. This is the final episode.

This is the final episode on our series on Lawrence Bideker and Roy Norris, the men that law enforcement and the rest of society would come to know as the toolbox killers.

Now, I'm not going to get too deep into it, but I do want to apologize for this final episode being so late.

I had a little bit of a mental health crisis, but I'm back now, and if you want to hear a little more of the update regarding that, I'm going to be putting it on Patreon.

Also, if you are a Patreon member and you want the last month or two refunded, I'm completely happy to do that.

But now let's get back into the story. Over the last four episodes,

we've traced how two men met inside the walls of the California men's colony in San Luis Obispo,

how they built a plan so deliberate and so cold that they called it a game, and how they spent

the summer and fall of 1979 hunting teenagers

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