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Energy Management for committed athletes and coaches.

Really we come at design in a slightly different perspective.

It's all about for us design and making and the process very often with sort of design

history.

It's sort of analysing the end product, but for me what's fascinating are the guys and

the women behind the ideas.

And often there's a sort of misconception of what design is, what is design?

Is it something you sort of bolt on at the end?

No.

Design is very, very easy, it's conception and planning, those three words, that's it.

And we're all, you know, everything man made is designed to a certain extent.

And it's one of the biggest stories ever, you know, the design history story.

It goes back to the Stone Age, you know.

So we are creative beings and it's that designing process that I find fascinating.

Hello, I'm Tom Wally and I'm as always with Lizzie Banks.

Lizzie.

Oh, you told me not to like start the podcast just talking about you, but can I just say

about me?

Can I just say you look a little bit tired today, Lizzie?

I haven't a bit tired.

I'm actually recording this and my pajamas from comfort of my home in Sheffield.

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