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Hello everybody, welcome back to Truth Injustice. I appreciate you guys bearing with us splitting up this conversation between myself and Chris.

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Alright Chris, picking up where we left off in the last episode, we discussed a scenario that you had in mind that you think kind of fits with the evidence.

And I can't disagree. There's nothing in the case file evidence-wide that says that can't have been what happened.

I think behaviorally, it's unlikely that that's the way it goes. It breaks down.

I have a scenario in my mind, and I guess what I'll do this is I'll give you a scenario, and I'll tell you upfront that the hang up in this scenario is June, say, just statement that I like to talk to you about that.

Of course.

So what I think happened is I've made no secret of the fact that I think that Eva has some involvement in this for reasons we can get into in a little bit.

But I think that Jennifer, as you said, gets up in the morning, everything she says, as far as the page going to Janet's talking to Craig, I think all that happens.

I think that in her first statement, there were nuggets of truth in there. I think she came back. I think one of two things happened.

I think it's possible that she never saw Eva and that later when Red Rock asks her about Eva, and she says she's asleep, it's because she genuinely thinks she's asleep.

The problem with that is then why is she knocking on Catalina's door if she thinks Eva is asleep.

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