I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wonsall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone, welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast. I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Jeffrey Wansall.

Hello everyone, welcome back. Thank you so much for listening. As we all say, we would be lost without you, which we certainly would.

Yes. An amazing correspondence and exciting ideas and it's a real treat to do this.

Absolute delicious privilege.

Yeah, it is.

And how's your week been, Mo?

It's been fine, thanks, not too bad.

Just, well, I've been really busy.

I've been out every day. dear oh poor you but i'm fine

i suppose it's you know it's uh it's it's terribly difficult i've been i've been up and down week

works and sunday and came back on monday and then it's been sort of in and out little bits of

this little bits of that and then not really then it's been sort of in and out little bits of this,

little bits of that and then not really. And I'm still sort of isolating a bit just to be careful, you know, not going too many places. And it's been an odd week. This, you know,

next week promises to be a bit more solid. You know, got a couple of documentaries we're making and a couple of things on the horizon. So next week looks more orderly, but this past week's been really kind of funny. When this comes out, though, it won't have been, it will be two weeks ago. Yes, I know, I know. It will have been Christmas when this comes out. Well, we should wish everyone a happy Christmas, shouldn't we?

Merry Christmas.

And a very, very good new year.

Let's hope it's better than 2021.

Yeah.

I have a thing about years which end in one.

Throughout my life, I've always been unhappy with years at end one.

So 61, 71, 81, 91, 2001, 2011 and 2011 and 2021.

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