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S10 Ep.10: To Remove or not to Remove?

Breakdown

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

True Crime, Politics, News

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Episode 10 of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Breakdown podcast covers two hearings during which lawyers for former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark and three Republican electors try to remove their cases to federal court in Atlanta. The hearings were before U.S. District Court Judge Steve Jones, who recently denied former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows’ bid to remove his case from Fulton County Superior Court. “To Remove or not to Remove?” of Breakdown’s Season 10 – “The Trump Indictment” – also covers an interesting pretrial ruling by Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee and a motion by prosecutors asserting that six attorneys representing various defendants in the racketeering case may have conflicts of interest. You can download the Breakdown podcast from Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or your favorite podcasting platform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's worth knowing what's really going on.

0:04.0

This is the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

0:11.0

Previously on Breakdown.

0:13.0

I'd like to know who those 75 people were that testified under oath in front of that grand jury.

0:18.0

So I think the code sections, the case law, even the Supreme Court case law,

0:24.0

and just frankly, fundamental fairness requires that those transcripts at a minimum

0:28.0

of witnesses be turned over.

0:30.0

If the state of Georgia, in this particular case, presented their case to the grand jury in one day,

0:36.0

which I can't say for sure, but based on the publicly available information, that's a possibility.

0:44.0

It would cause my eyebrows to go up a lot.

0:48.0

And I've said that to the court, the grand jury acted rather quickly,

0:52.0

is one of the things, as the court said, we don't get into deliberations with a jury.

0:57.0

They can take as long as they like, they can take as short as they like.

1:00.0

I understand it may raise as Mr. Grubman's eyebrows, but a true indictment was returned by a grand jury,

1:07.0

and they could have taken five minutes, five hours, or five days.

1:10.0

There's no case law that puts a restriction on how long it should take them.

1:14.0

It's been a week of court hearings.

1:17.0

First, we heard from a lawyer representing former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

1:22.0

Then we heard from lawyers representing the three Republican electors charged in the 41-count Fulton County indictment

1:29.0

against former President Donald Trump and 18 others.

1:32.0

And we're keeping a close eye on the federal appeals court in Atlanta.

1:36.0

It is expedited briefing in the case involving former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.

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