S10 Bonus: Jonathan Stark, Consultant - Teacher - Author

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4.6 • 216 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Stark is based in Providence, Rhode Island. He attended the Berkeley College or Music, with a dual major in song writing. He ended up going back to computers to make ends meet while he was gigging - and he figured out he really enjoyed watching people use the software he built. Outside of tech and professional life, he's married with 2 kids and 2 dogs. He is an avid martial artist, as are his kids, and got his 2nd degree black belt at age 53. At his prior company, Jonathan was leading teams to build software. He wanted to hire senior engineers, but was told junior engineers would better fit the budget. He couldn't figure out why, but then it dawned on him - hourly billing a junior created more margin. He wanted to pivot away from hourly billing as a company and went solo to figure out how to do this. Once he did, he never looked back. This is the creation story of Jonathan Stark and Ditching Hourly. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com * Check out Red Hat: https://www.redhat.com * Check out Vanta: https://vanta.com/CODESTORY Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/code-story/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	I didn't know what I was going to do, but I knew it wasn't going to be hourly, and that was all I knew.
0:04.6	Back then, there were still these things called bookstores, and I was standing in a bookstore,
0:09.7	and came across a book called Value-Based Fees by Alan Weiss.
0:13.6	And that thing was my Bible for a couple of years. Every single page has notes on it.
0:18.0	It's a great book. It's for management consultants, which wasn't at all what I was doing, but it was adaptable enough that I could figure it out
0:24.8	and apply it for software projects. So that was my main, air quotes, tool. And then I had to develop
0:31.4	a bunch of frameworks that were specific to software development and consulting that made it make sense.
0:39.1	Hey, it's Jonathan Stark here, and I am the ditching hourly guy over at jonathan
0:43.0	stark.com.
0:46.6	This is Code Story.
0:49.4	A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries.
0:52.4	It's six months moonlighting.
0:53.9	There's nothing on the backcats.
0:55.8	Who share what it takes to change in industry.
0:58.3	I don't exactly know what to do next.
1:00.2	She took many goes to get right.
1:01.9	Who built the teams that have their back.
1:04.5	What company is its people?
1:06.1	The teams help each other achieve.
1:07.5	Most proud of our team.
1:09.1	Keeping scalability top of mind.
1:11.6	All that infrastructure was up pain.
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