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Hello everybody and welcome back to the serial dynasty.

In today's episode, we're going to continue to look into and examine the interrogation tactics

of detectives Ritz and McGillivari throughout the duration of this case.

In order to get a better understanding of what these tactics are and how they work in the

problems that may arise from using them, I reached out to get the opinion of someone

who isn't expert on this subject.

Today's episode features a nearly hour long interview with Jim Train.

Jim was the retired detective featured on serial who was tasked with evaluating the investigation.

Before I begin the interview, I want to make clear to all the listeners that Jim is

not kept up with this case since serial.

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