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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S1 Ep15: We the people of the jury . . .

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.57.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2015

⏱️ 142 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Bob interviews/debates author and blogger Ann Brocklehurst. Bob and Ann present opposing sides of the case.

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0:00.0

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0:04.3

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0:07.6

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0:13.4

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0:18.1

For those of you who download the mix, Sean will soon after be sending a written workout that will go along with that music.

0:24.2

You know he's always looking for ways to make you dig deeper.

0:30.0

Hello everybody and welcome back to this serial dynasty.

0:52.1

For this special episode of the serial dynasty where we will be exploring the possibility of a non-s guilt,

0:58.0

I'm going to recommend to all of you at this point maybe hit pause and pack a lunch because this is going to be a long episode.

1:04.5

As I've mentioned in previous episodes, my investigation method revolves around examining evidence, developing a theory from that evidence,

1:12.3

and then going back to the evidence and looking deeper to see if there's a way to disprove my theory.

1:18.1

This method has led me to the place where I stand today, which is that I now believe that a non-sciad is innocent.

1:28.0

In order to keep true with my method, I've done a lot of reading and a lot of researching, trying to find actual evidence that actually points to a non-s guilt.

1:43.0

And I've been unable to do so. The state was able to convict a non based on the testimony of Jay, supposedly corroborated by cell phone records,

1:51.6

and then they piled on with some circumstantial evidence.

1:54.6

At this point, all of us know that Jay is, let's say, less than credible.

2:00.6

The testimony that he gave that the jury heard at trial was a polished version that had changed multiple times over the preceding months leading up to the trial.

2:10.4

Most of those changes revolved around new information that was obtained by the police regarding cell phone evidence.

2:16.6

This has led me to believe that the idea of the cell phone evidence corroborating Jay's testimony no longer holds up.

2:23.4

When you look at cell records and then create a narrative afterward, based on those cell records, those two things no longer corroborate each other.

2:32.0

So what we're left with is circumstantial evidence.

2:35.1

And personally, and I've been challenged on this, but I would not even consider these things evidence.

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