S08.07: Romance Demons: Problématique (Italics)
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🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
It's Halloween which means we're talking about monsters (complimentary)! We've done devils and witches and an entire season on monsters of all ilk, but we haven't done demons yet, and so here we are! Come one come all as Sarah confesses one of her weirdest (charming) kinks and we discuss the age-old adage: "If a demon's horns aren't sexual organs, why are they even there?" We're heading back to the early 00s on this one, so headphones in because who knows what we're going to talk about?! Definitely not us!
This week also marks our 7th anniversary, so we're feeling just a little emotional (grateful). Thank you for being with us, whether this is your first episode or your almost four hundredth. We love you.
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Notes
- We’ve done some serious Halloween episodes and also some silly ones. And all of season one was the Immortals After Dark series.
- The devil is just the most powerful demon in Christian mythology, and apparently so are incubi and succubi.
- Tim Curry in Legend is actually nothing at all like David Bowie in Labyrinth.
Books
- Sweet Ruin by Kresley Cole
- Hot as Hades by Alisha Rai
- Succubus Blues by Richelle Meade
- Dealing with a Desperate Demon by Charlotte Stein
- Pleasure Unbound by Larissa Ione
- I Accidentally Summoned a Demon Boyfriend by Jessica Cage
- Kiss of a Demon King by Kresley Cole
- MacRieve by Kresley Cole
- Demon from the Dark by Kresley Cole
- A Rogue’s Proposal by Stephanie Laurens
- A Witch’s Guide to Fake Dating a Demon by Sarah Hawley
- The Devil She Knows by Alexandria Bellefleur
- Demon Lover by Heather Guerre
- Dionysus in Wisconsin by EH Lupton
Sponsors
- HarperCollins, publishers of N.E. Davenport's Our Vicious Oaths, available in print, ebook or audiobook at Amazon, B&N, Kobo, Apple Books, with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited, or wherever you get your books.
- Rachel Runya Katz, author of Isn't it Obvious, available in print, ebook or audiobook at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Apple Books, or wherever you get your books.
- Zara Doyle, author of Tori and her Wolf, available in print, ebook, audiobook or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.
- Jessica Thomas, author of Dare Me, Ellie, available in print, ebook or with your monthly subscription to Kindle Unlimited.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | So it's Halloween week, which means we always delve into something of the occult. |
| 0:07.8 | We want you to, we want to give you what you want, everybody. |
| 0:11.5 | You deserve nice things is what we're saying. |
| 0:14.1 | Oh, listen, my very nice colleagues had to send me flowers for reasons. |
| 0:19.5 | And on it it said, you deserve nice things. |
| 0:21.3 | And I was like, oh, apparently I say that everywhere. Oh, yes, it's true. So last, I'm trying to look, |
| 0:28.2 | was it last year we did devils? So what we did last year was interesting because it wasn't quite |
| 0:33.6 | devils, although we did talk about one or two books where it was the little old devil. |
| 0:38.2 | Yes. |
| 0:39.3 | What we talked about last year was characters named devil. |
| 0:43.6 | Correct. |
| 0:44.8 | Which really does move you into the historical world kind of exclusively. |
| 0:49.5 | Because I don't understand you guys. |
| 0:51.4 | Like, why can't contemporary writers name their characters devil? I would be fine with it. Just saying free yourselves. Free yourselves from the shackles of, you know, realism. It's terrible out here in real world. Sure. So- |
| 1:08.6 | Your character's devil. Enjoy yourselves. Yeah. Right. Now, actually, you know what? That was two years ago. Because last year, you know what we did. Last year was when we rolled out our theory about morticians, you know, right? Like, last year we were serious. Last year we did serious Halloween. Like, we were intellectual last year. |
| 1:28.4 | It was in 2023, yes. |
| 1:31.1 | And mortality and the grief industrial complex inside romance. |
| 1:38.1 | And listen, I'm very proud of that episode, and people talk about it all the time. |
| 1:41.5 | Yeah, it was like, but it was serious romance episode. |
| 1:43.7 | But it was too serious. I mean, I don't think I had a giggle one time. That is not the way today is going to go. No. So, 2023 was devils in romance, but like characters named devil. October 22, I'm like looking now. Now that like, I'm glad that you're going deep. I'm going deep here. October 2022, it just said spooky stuff Halloween romance. And I think that might be the first one we did. Spooky stuff. We don't know. Yeah. Just anything that was like kind of monstery. Yeah. Yeah. And we were looking for like, like, is it possible? like, this horror romance discussion, right? |
| 2:20.1 | Which I think we're having, we're, I'm seeing more and more. |
| 2:22.8 | I mean, one of the books we talked about was Halloween boo. |
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