This is Karen Hunter and somewhere in the world. Welcome to

episode 51 of in class with Dr. Gray Car, in class with car. Hi.

Hey, Oprah, how are you? You know what? First, let me say thank you. Thank you everyone all over the world, wherever you are joining us, you have made this into a thing that I don't think can be stopped or let me appropriately frame

it should not be stopped I'm grateful for that I'm also grateful for you I know we're

going to talk today about Stevie Wonder moving to know we're going to talk today about Stevie Wonder, moving to Ghana, we're

going to talk about Coca-Cola, erasing whiteness. But I want to start off talking about the black church because the PBS documentary two-part series of

course presented by skip gates funded by the Ford Foundation produced by John Legend, a whole bunch of names,

I filed in it, is the kind of documentary that I would be rubbing my hands to go watch. I couldn't wait to see it.

And because of you, I'm now looking through a different lens.

I'm going to blame you for me not enjoying it

at the level that I think I should because I'm not scrutinizing.

And I'm asking the question. So before I ask you a question about it, I want to

thank the Black Church and PBS because it sent me down several rabbit holes

in the first part, you know, like

Adam Clayton Powell Sr. Huh. So I was. Oh, damn. You talk. Yeah, and I'm

so I was like, oh, I think he was a white man passing for black.

And a time when being a mediocre poor white man wasn't as valuable as being a black man that was that light skin to

did so that sent me down that rabbit hole we're going to talk about that later with

Coca-Cola I also like took some notes Vashty McKinsey I got I knew who she was, but then as I'm researching,

because that's what we should be doing when we're watching these things go down these

rabbit holes, I'm like, oh, her grandmother on her mother's side was one of the founding members of

the doctors at Howard and her and her granddaddy was a newsman a black

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