This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. She is a I want to start with the ordained minister part because that just love that

and a psychologist you know where is Dr Robin. Let me welcome back to the show Dr Robin

Smith welcome. U.

Muted, you're muted, fearless one, you're muted,

I'm sorry, my goodness, I mean, I have my life trying to have my voice so I don't and isn't that interesting that sometimes we mute ourselves and don't know that some of our need could be met, but we have shut down voice because we've been accustomed to other people listening.

So thank you for telling you that you couldn't hear me. I want to be heard.

Oh, you will find out all the things from me. That's the one

melody I never, I never, ever could not keep quiet. You could ask my mother who would

try to twist my lips off. Anyway, Dr Smith, I'm having specs right now.

Shut up!

Just got you down.

Um, we're in the time and I wanted you to come on like after the shit and all of the stuff to suss through all of this

cognitive dissonance that we're having is this uh and I notice a psychological like

America has a like a mental illness where we accept facts we don't want to accept people we don't want

to accept reality where does that reside in our medulla sit in the medulla is

it someplace else? Where's that space of...

Yeah, well it's interesting you say that and I'm hoping you're going to be reading

something from me sometime soon about this because America is sick or sick and it is a disease

it's a heart disease and it's a mind disease. We've been brainwashed. And as you said, not like people to think that there are people, particularly black and brown people who it was said we were only three-fifths a human being and one

have to ask how did that even work? You know, how is it possible that for those of African descent that it was said and believed.

And that's what's dangerous about it

is that it became the real pandemic,

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