This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. So this is after Trump was elected and this is Steve Adabato interviewing me.

First you heard me talk about before Trump. Now this is after Trump and this is right after Trump.

And we're heading into 2017.

I think this interview happened December of 2016.

And we are having this conversation

about what the future's going to look like and now we're in 2020 and y'all already know

So I'm playing these back to remind people of what's at stake in November.

And as we get closer to it, this is a time

if there are people in your life who are still

struggling with whether or not to vote.

And my vote doesn't count and all of the myriad things

that people are saying right now for reasons why

they're not going to cast a vote for Joe Biden and Kamla Harris, listen to these.

Share these podcasts with them and I want to thank Steve Audubato because he did an amazing job

interviewing me because I hate being interviewed. Let me just say that. I'm one of the worst people

to interview because I'm so used to being on the other side of the mic, but he made me really comfortable to speak this and we have a great rapport.

So up next is me and Steve Adabato talking about Trump after he was elected and this podcast is brought to you by Ashford University.

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