This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub.

Joining me today is Dr. Pam Popper.

You know her from the Karen Hunter show in other places of course because she's everywhere.

Food Choices, Forks Over Knives, she has a best selling book. She's everywhere food choices forks over knives.

She has a best selling book food over medicine and she is an authority in this area of health in a way that's not normal.

And we were having this conversation before we got into the hub

where we're talking about the medical profession and you know I have a friend

that was trying to go to medical school and she was disappointed because she

didn't get in and you were

telling me Dr. Pam Popper, welcome, first of all, welcome to the home.

You were telling me that you know we don't have a shortage of people who are doctors.

Right, the deficiency in the marketplace right now. people who are doctors. Right.

The deficiency in the marketplace right now

is not medical doctors.

Actually, if doctors just did what they needed to do,

we need a whole lot less of them than we do now.

But plenty of docs to prescribe, plenty of docs to do surgery and procedures

and all that stuff. What where the real huge gap in the marketplace is is the trained person who can have what I call the informed medical decision-making

conversation.

And what this is is where the consumer gets the risks, the benefits, the full picture of all the options and then can make a good decision.

Because what people in this building here all the time is if I'd known then what I know now I never would have and then you can

fill in the blank I wouldn't have gone to this doctor adopted this diet had this

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