S E1288: In Class with Carr, Ep. 288: Moving Targets
In Class with Carr
Knarrative
4.9 • 972 Ratings
🗓️ 15 September 2025
⏱️ 109 minutes
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Summary
In this moment in US history, fear has been weaponized as a political tool, using white nationalist rhetoric to target anyone who can be cast as a political enemy. Terms like “The Left” become labels for “enemies of the people” of “enemies of our country,” shifting categories that include anyone who refuses to conform to narrow and white nativist politics. Whenever claims of blameless white nationalism collapse, the claims simply change shape, becoming more and more nonsensical and impossible to pin down. The only constant is that “the people” and/or “our country” remain exclusionary concepts propelled forward always by fear and hatred of moving targets of perceived enemies.
Meanwhile, African people—both descendants of the trafficked and the rest of the Black world—are a fixed entity among the moving targets. The wider non-White world and all those who choose to act in solidarity with our common humanity over racial exclusion are judged in relation to their generosity, seen as weakness by those who choose exclusionary fear and hate instead. As a result, threats to everyone’s lives are real and persistent in a Social Structure where anyone can become an enemy at any moment. But there is another reality: The reality of our vastness, our reach and our capacity to outlast fear-based politics. We are everywhere, impossible to silence or eliminate. Every attempt to destroy us only reveals the hatreds at the heart of white supremacy and the politics of fear. We cannot be erased. And we can and must act to change the world.
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| 0:00.0 | this is karen hunter and welcome to in class with car this is a space where during the pandemic |
| 0:07.7 | we imagined what it would look like to teach a class online that would be for the world and it |
| 0:14.4 | started with a simple question can i press record it was a question that i asked of the people's professor |
| 0:19.9 | dr gray car At the time, |
| 0:22.0 | he was the head of Africana Studies at Howard University. He's still teaching the world. And in this |
| 0:26.8 | space, we have been going strong since 2020. And it has been amazing. So tune in to In Class |
| 0:33.8 | with Carr. And thank you for joining us. You can follow us by the way at |
| 0:37.9 | Narrative with a K. Join us Narrative with a K. The K is silent like knowledge. K |
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| 0:49.5 | join us there. Stay tuned. You know, this bad stuff happens. |
| 0:57.0 | And for 33 hours, I was praying that if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be one of us. |
| 1:15.5 | That somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country. |
| 1:23.4 | Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for. |
| 1:26.9 | Just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say, |
| 1:28.4 | hey, we don't do that here. |
| 1:31.5 | And indeed, Utah is a special place. |
| 1:33.9 | We leave the nation in charitable giving. |
| 1:36.0 | We leave the nation in service every year. |
| 1:38.7 | But it did happen here. My man, Governor Cox. |
| 1:47.2 | Good everything, everybody. |
| 1:49.1 | Hello to you, Dr. Carr. |
| 1:50.9 | That was the governor of Utah, Spencer Cox. |
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