S E1196: In Class with Carr, Ep. 196: "What Does It Mean to Belong?"

This Is Karen Hunter

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Empowerment, Africana Studies, Greg Carr, Karen Hunter, History, Education, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 11 December 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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The world that Norman Lear curated, including the black world, and the way that black cultural meaning makers like Esther Rolle and John Amos pushed back against him, are a lens for examining the difference between social structures and governance formations in Africana. And after those shows, the genealogy that Norman Lear tapped into, in part to continue an ongoing project of mingling his ethnicity with a fictional American identity, with the framing of Black people as the diminished citizenry, goes a long way toward helping us understand the contempt and pity with which others view us, and with which we so maddeningly and too often view ourselves.

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0:00.0	This is Karen Hunter and welcome to The Hub.
0:10.3	People heard about me, and one of them was Mike Evans,
0:13.9	who was Lionel on All in the Family.
0:16.7	And he came to me one day and he said,
0:19.2	look, I'm on this show called All in the Family.
0:21.6	And my part is just to walk on and the walk off part.
0:25.6	He said, and I understand you a good writer and everybody's writing for the show.
0:30.6	So what I'd like you to do is I'd like you to write a show that centers on my character. I put both our names on taking in to
0:40.7	Norman Lee and we'll split the money so I said okay so I wrote this show in which I created
0:46.6	his mother and father George and Louise Jefferson and he took it in Norman Lear and two weeks
0:52.7	later Norman sent for me.
0:56.0	And that's how it all started.
0:59.0	But that really was the impetus that created.
1:00.6	The Jefferson.
1:01.2	The Jefferson?
1:01.5	Yeah.
1:04.1	And so did you work on the Jefferson?
1:04.6	No.
1:05.6	Why?
1:09.4	Well, I pitched the show in 1971.
1:10.4	Uh-huh. And his first thing Norman Lear said when I came into the office was America would never buy a black man calling white people hungry in the sitcom.
1:18.6	So then I pitched good times, what became good times. That was in 71 and good times didn't come on the air until
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