This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. We are live good everything everybody how y'all doing everybody clap your hands yeah in

it's in class with car episode 176 I apologize for the tardiness, you know, we were convening beforehand talking about some things.

And my computer had to reboot, so I'm gonna be transparent about that too, but but Dr. Carr you had me up late last night watching

they clone Tyrone.

Yeah, he's down here, they're cloned him.

That's exactly right what we see on the commercial that the commercial had me at the end

The white dude out there. Oh right now I'm a reporty for and then the brother comes in the screen clearly on social media.

Oh, why?

They I had cloned him.

And I thought, is this a minstrel show?

But what do you think so far?

Well, I got to the Kiefer Sutherland speech about why we keep cloning pimp's prostitutes and drug dealers. And it was profound to me and I also it kind of dovetailed onto the

conversation we had last week about music towards the end of in class with car

episode 175 where last night we were talking about the need for bridges and the need for momentum of memory and the need for art to reflect the past as well as the present and then have an imagination for the future

because you can't do that without all of those elements that Earth's when they fire would tell us.

So I was so

surprised at that speech was so damn accurate in terms of that

but at the same time I'm mindful that

the depiction of us in music and media is but a very measured and purposeful

depiction of us. The us that I live in every day is this. This is the us that I know and this doesn't show up.

It's starting to show up in Abbott Elementary. It's starting to show up in different places, you know,

and there's artists like, you know, we talked a bunch about

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