This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. Joining me to talk about all of the things in pop but before I do let me read

let me read a little bit from Shine Bright she writes my love of music is

intense my commitment of music is intense.

My commitment to it is steadfast.

This project is an attempt to figure out why.

When I talk about black women in music at colleges

on my black girl song book show to my husband my friends it's normal for me to weep my voice

breaks I'm looking up because my eyes are brimming someone hands me a tissue is dramatic but it's real there are no

reasons well we're gonna get into some of that with the author of Shine Bright a very

personal history of black women in pop Let me welcome the great Danielle Smith. Hi. Oh man what's

going on Karen Hunter? Hey hey hey happy

happy publication day. day.

Congratulations to you.

Thank you so much.

I couldn't be spinning it with anybody better or more appropriate.

Hello.

Come on now. Come on through.

Listen, I remember you in Wendy Washington's office before you know after

vibe and all I mean people don't know you if you're talking about music and writing first of all you

wanted to cope the baddest writers out there for real for real like this woman

can straight up write that just one paragraph everything but music

before we get into the book you're tell me tell me about this love affair

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