This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub. I want to invite this woman back because she has an amazing career and I want to know more about it and sometimes you know people come on specifically for a thing and I'm just like Tommy Moore Moore. I need to know more.

So she's back.

Vice President, Senior Vice President,

for Social Impact at MasterCard.

Let me welcome Salah Goss, back to the show.

Hi.

Hi. Hi, thank you for inviting me back I'm very happy to do

listen I need some inside we all we need to know the inside workings of money

how one rises up to the ranks of a place like

MasterCard. Before we do that, what is MasterCard? A lot of us have that symbol on

our debit cards, on our credit cards.

It's like that little, some of us have master cards, some of us have the other thing that begins

with V.

What is it exactly?

What does it do?

MasterCard, and I get this a lot, so it's a good question.

MasterCard is a technology company.

And the easiest way to describe it is we are the technology that allows you to stand in front of a

terminal put your card in or tap or do a digital payment and for it to go

through seamlessly anywhere in the world.

So we've never issued a card,

you've never issued credit, that's your bank that does that,

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