This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub.

Let me welcome this powerhouse to the show. I'm really excited and we're going to have a nice conversation. She's listed as a family physician and an epidemiologist but she's so much more

than that. Let me welcome to the show

Dr camera Jones hi thank you hey Karen and I say it camara

camara okay thank you you. I appreciate you. Stanford educated. I think about, you know, your journey into medicine and then went and got, you know, the epidemiology degree Johns Hopkins I mean you've gone

through the system and then much like Carter G Woodson realized something's

wrong here.

So take us on that journey, you know, of what radicalized you.

Thank you, because indeed, although I don't consider myself radicalized,

my work is on naming, measuring, and addressing the impacts of racism

on the health and well-being of the nation.

And it started when I started wondering why are doctors, why am I as a medical

student being taught that when I talked to another health care provider,

I should say this 35 year old black female

presents with crushing chest pain or whatever it would be.

Why do I need to say she's black versus the 35 year old white female who

presents with the same symptoms? And so I started challenging that with my attending

physicians above me and they had some crazy answers like well it helps us

figure out which the patient is in the emergency department and all that but that the real answer

was that that was what they had been taught,

that race was a determinant of health

directly, biologically in our genes type of thing.

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