Hey, friend, welcome to the Mere Christians podcast.

I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals, but who work as audiologists,

housekeepers, and special education teachers.

That's the question we explore every week, and today I'm posing it to S.D. Smith, also

known as Sam Smith, the creator of the phenomenally successful Green Ember series.

It's this work of fantasy, this adventure saga, written for kids,

featuring heroic rabbits with swords and guys.

I don't read a lot of fiction, but I cannot stop reading this series because it is dripping

with kingdom language and themes.

Sam and I sat down recently to talk about how we can see all of our vocations as participating

in the ultimate mended wood of bringing heaven to earth.

We talked about why Lord of the Rings was more spiritually powerful for Sam than any Christian

nonfiction.

And we talked about the call to modesty, fidelity, and audacity in our work.

Guys, you're not going to want to miss this.

It is very rare that I will stop recording with a guest and spend another 10 minutes

talking to them after the fact.

This is one of those conversations.

Do not miss this episode

with my new friend, Sam,

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