Hey, friend, welcome to the Mere Christians podcast.

I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals, but who work as florists,

speech therapists, and cable installers.

That's the question we explore every week.

And today I'm posing it to my friend Kaylee Cox, the first person I have ever worked with to co-write a book.

The book that dropped yesterday, my brand new book, Five Mere Christians, Benjeworthy biographies

that show you how to glorify God and your work. Kaylee and I sat down to talk about what my

decision to work with a co-author can teach you about your own work today. I shared why I

chose to make a collection of biographies my next book, and Kaylee and I both shared a bunch of the stickiest stories from the lives of Fred Rogers, Fannie Lou Hamer, Hannah Moore, C.S. Lewis, the founder of Lego, etc., that have forever changed how we work.

You're not going to want to miss this terrific episode with my friend, Kaylee Cox.

Kaylee Cox, welcome back to the Mirr Christians podcast.

Yay! It's so good to be back.

All right. It's confession time.

We were not totally honest with our audience when we had you on the podcast back in January

2024. So I was interviewing you about the job you had at the time, but we neglected to

share with our listeners that you and I had been quietly working together

for almost a year at that point writing Five Mirror Christians. And we were both getting

to talk about it, but agreed it wasn't the right time. That's right. It was very sneaky

of us. But I'm so glad I get to come back and talk about it now. I only didn't talk about

it last time because you promised I could come back and talk about it later. Yeah, and now's the

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