RZA Pt. 2: Wu-Tang Clan (Still) Ain’t Nothing to F*ck With
Impolitic with John Heilemann
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🗓️ 8 May 2026
⏱️ 71 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Aloha Namaste and welcome to Impolitic with John Heilman, a puck and audacity |
| 0:11.0 | earlier this week, we dropped the first part of this special two-part episode with my |
| 0:16.1 | longtime pal and occasional collaborator, the acclaimed producer, composer, actor, filmmaker, best known as the prime mover behind and de facto leader of the Seminole hip-hop collective Wu-Tang Clan, Rizza. |
| 0:29.7 | Because Riz's new movie, One Spoon of Chocolate, which he both wrote and directed, just opened in theaters across the country last week, and because the |
| 0:37.8 | film, 15 years in the making, marks the latest stage in Riz's artistic evolution away from music |
| 0:42.8 | making and towards movie making, those were the topics that we focused on in the first installment |
| 0:47.3 | of this double header. And if you haven't listened to that one yet, please do. Probably |
| 0:51.8 | make sense to go back and listen to that one before you listen to this one. |
| 0:56.0 | Anyway, whatever the future holds for Riza as a cinematic progenitor, |
| 1:00.9 | the place where his impact and influence to date have been greatest, |
| 1:04.7 | extending way beyond the confines of entertainment and into the culture at large, |
| 1:08.7 | has been in the realm of music. |
| 1:10.4 | As the producer and Sonic Spengali behind Wu-Tang's Out of Nowhere, |
| 1:14.9 | rap world-changing, record industry upending, |
| 1:17.6 | 1993 debut album Enter the Wutang, 36 Chambers, |
| 1:22.2 | Riza fashioned something that was more than a sound and more than a soundscape, |
| 1:26.6 | but a fully realized, utterly distinctive, |
| 1:29.0 | and instantly recognizable aesthetic system. Resolutely lo-fi, gritty, dusty, skeletal, |
| 1:35.9 | claustrophobic, and relentlessly rhythm forward, filled with clip drums, hard, dry kicks, |
| 1:41.7 | and snares, huge amounts of negative space shot through with samples |
| 1:46.7 | lifted from sources ranging from obscure stacks b-sides to Shaw Brothers Kung Fu movies to |
| 1:53.0 | black exploitation staples such as Superfly and shaft and then sliced into jagged piercing fragments. |
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