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Please check it out at UnwantedBook.com. I don't know, we can see right now, I need you to get your things out. Good afternoon, Michael Malice here. Let that be your welcome for the next hour. We have with us one of our most long awaited, most requested guests, comedian Ryan Long. You've seen him from many of his viral clips that are absolutely hilarious. He co-hosts the Boyz podcast with Danny, who's last name I cannot possibly pronounce. I just... No one can. Pull the chuck. I close? Pulitschuk, I believe.

You want to go hard on the cuck.

I interviewed him and I was guest-tasting Wilkins show a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was so much fun. I never talked to him before. He was such a chill dude. And I'm like, wait a minute. I haven't had a ride on the show. It's way overdue. you're obviously also successful touring comedian,

which I want to talk to you about in a minute.

What we were talking a little bit before we got started

is, you know, I'm known as a troll, your obviously stand up comic, you make satirical videos as well. I feel like we're at a post satire era. When I was doing my book on North Korea, and that was what 2014, the book came out, I took all the ridiculousness there and I toned it down and I'm like this enough is crazy enough. You don't need me to add gasoline to it because then it's hard to distinguish what are they saying versus what's Michael Malice trying to tweak it. And as we're recording, I just suck a characterization of a tweet by Trump, then I'd draw it's the big picture front center Trump tweeting at photo himself as Christ, healing some guy in a bed. And I'm sitting there I'm like I'm not Christian I'm not religious particularly, but I can't wrap my head around this because you know I've had memes where it's like the Iatola and George Floyd hugging in heaven and that on its face is a ridiculous and funny image. And people know, okay, he's being ridiculous and funny. But with this one, I'm just like, I don't understand the thought process. And like, this is something that I would post to make fun of Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With, I was saying his latest tweets was the sat down. What people would say his tweets are like, oh, he's doing wrestling. His last tweets were 100% of wrestling. Promo are like, you're going to feel fire and wrath like has never been before. This Sunday, only a WrestleMania, me versus the Ayatola in a cage. You know, it's, yeah, so you, a little bit, that is satire.

And I'll say satire is like one of the things I do where, you know, you're kind of making

a point by, you know, taking an extreme version of it.

And satire is very pointed, right?

Like you're, a lot of different comedy doesn't have to have like such a specific the target of satire is like very the more you can isolate it like when people are doing bad satire the question is you go what exactly are you making fun of and they're like well sort of this but sort of this and you're like well yeah because you haven't you're actually not sure what your point is but that's that specific genre which I will agree I've done more of the other things that I do in the last little bit because of that. So I actually felt that where you,

it becomes an unnecessary. Like satire is the most useful in certain times where it's, this is the time satire is the most useful in my opinion, where it's like, there's something that needs to be said, everyone's kind of afraid to say it. And satire becomes this like tool

where you can, you can kind of like cut through that and say that, whether that be saying it too soon or whether that be saying it, when people are afraid to, right now is a time where there is no opinion you haven't heard. And it's, it's not like, it's being yelled and screamed at you. So the idea of being like, maybe I'll say this thing, you're like, Yeah, that guy screaming it.

So this kind of, you know, that specific tool becomes a little less useful. But that's only one of the many tools in comedy. So that would be my, yeah, but do you think we're at a point now where satire has become almost impossible because we're in this kind of self-soughttier era?

Well, I don't see a binary like that. I see it becomes useful and unuseful and unuseful and unuseful in a cycle. But yeah, I mean, sad there is sort of like opens the door and then in America, especially, everything always takes it to the, everything gets commoditized into the extreme so fast. Like, think about when there was like a point people were probably saying three years ago that like,

you know, it's very important to have like open discussion

and that was true, right? that's commoditized into the extreme so fast. Think about when there was like a point people were probably saying three years ago that like,

you know, it's very important to have like open discussion

and that was true, right? Like there was people were having in different echo chambers and they weren't having those debates. And then it was kind of like, you know, people should be debating these things and there was a little bit of that. Now, every channel is like Pierce Morgan, like 50 pedophiles, debate one newborn baby.

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