So you got a whole alpha team now, don't you?

But you have a wealth of knowledge that is beneficial to a lot of people and we can move the needle.

How often do you hear a hunting podcast?

We were talked about this. People relate to this.

Welcome back everybody. I have got an amazing photographer, professional back tension

hen shooter and I'm just screwing around. I've got Ryan Haynes on the other end of the mic here.

What's going on man?

Oh, not much. I wouldn't say that I'm professional either of those things, especially the second one.

So yeah, you're a good tryer. No, no, you're a new R1 hell of a photographer, but we had just

talked a second ago. Ryan was saying he was working on shooting a back tension henge. So I was laughing

because of how many times I've launched errors to Jesus and busted my face when I first started

shooting a henge. So yeah, I feel your pain.

Yeah, the neighbors fans and the neighbors dogs aren't the, are not a question when I'm shooting

those right now. So yeah, it happens. Well, should man tell everybody a little bit about yourself.

Yeah, so I, I guess first I had lived down here in South Eastern Oklahoma and I'm just out

of doors, man, a big bow hunter and picked a photography probably four or five years ago and just ran

with it. So that's kind of what I do. I love both of them. I guess that's equally the same.

I've grown to love being behind the camera just about as much as being behind the boat. So

that's kind of who I am. Be out to the core.

So, is like, do you, are you doing the like photography like full time or are you, is it part time,

or how do you work that? Just kind of part time. So actually I have a job, a nine to five, as I'd

say. I work from the house, 90% of the time. I do safety consulting for an insurance company,

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