Hello, Kevin Rose here.

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dot email. Today's guest Ryan Carson, Ryan and I go way back to the web

2.0 days where I used to speak at his conferences.

And he used to throw a whole different series of conferences.

The one that I would always give talks at

was the future of web apps.

These were massive.

They were talking like 4,000 plus people attending these all over the world.

He would have them in Florida and he would have them in London.

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