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🗓️ 1 June 2025
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Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. The pair discuss whether the Trump administration is aping the Tories' Rwanda scheme, why the government is so bad at communications and if Cyril Ramaphosa is really someone to admire. Plus the best way to treat prisoners with mental health or substance issues, the MAGA maniacs sticking their noses into the Polish elections and posh accents in Jane Austen dramas.
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1:00.2 | Hello and happy Sunday. Happy Sunday, one and all. |
1:06.4 | Hope you having a great day, great weekend. This is the two Matt's Q&A brought to you by the wonderful |
1:11.5 | subscribers of the New European. Should we get straight in, Matt? Let's go for it. First question comes |
1:16.1 | from Mr Paul Chapman. Paul writes, I'm a US citizen born in the UK. I'm therefore doubly horrified |
1:22.9 | to say that the Trump administration references the UK's Rwanda policy as both the Genesis |
1:28.7 | and cover for their current deportation policies. What do the maths think of that? |
1:35.5 | I'm ashamed. And I think that it's an incredibly important and underreported aspect of the whole |
1:41.7 | disgusting deportation strategy that Trump has started and is growing. |
1:49.0 | I mean, it's a funny thing that, you know, leaving aside the whole question of colonial legacy, |
1:53.5 | the great claim of the UK, you know, post-colonial actually, was that it exported democracy |
1:59.0 | and healthcare and education for women. |
2:01.3 | And now it seems that we are exporting cruel deportation schemes. |
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