Once upon a time, Disney was a motion picture studio in a sea of Hollywood studios doing something nobody else was doing.

Disney's business is memory making. Disney's business is tradition.

But here's the thing about kingdoms.

They don't last forever.

To survive, Disney had to grow.

But has that tremendous growth eroded what made Disney, Disney.

And I don't know the world cares that this is a Disney movie anymore. I'm Joe

Italian. I'm hosting Land of the Giants, the Disney Telepa, from Bulcher on the Box Media Podcast Network.

Follow Land of the Giants wherever you. I'm very much looking forward to the interview that we recorded with Ruth Rischel,

former editor-in-chief of Gourmet magazine.

Ruth came in to talk about her new memoir, Save Me The Plums, a book where she goes into her history as the editor of Gourmet,

one of the biggest food publications in the history of the entire planet.

Right? That is right.

Yeah.

I'm a big fan of her memoirs, but this one I think especially spoke to me because I've been covering

food and food media for so long and Gourmet was such an important

part of my upbringing and I just love it when she throws in some good gossip about

Kane Nast about her rivalry with Epicureus what it was like to go from being the New York Times

Restaurant Critic, which was a very prominent job to an even more prominent job and

get paid seven times the amount she was getting paid before?

Seven X, your critic salary.

Silicon Valley would be really happy.

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